The Salon du Tapis d'Orient is a moderated discussion group in the manner of the 19th century salon devoted to oriental rugs and textiles and all aspects of their appreciation. Please include your full name and e-mail address in your posting.
by Yon Bard
Throughout the following discussion, questions posed in bold-face are suggested topics for discussion
From the beginning of my interest in rugs I have been skeptical of dates assigned to tribal rugs. Contributing to this skepticism were observations such as the following:
To allay my doubts (hopefully), I would like to initiate a discussion on how to date tribal rugs. Although I’d like this discussion to encompass other tribal rugs as well, what I have to say is largely about Türkmen, because (1) I know more about them, and (2) they appear to span a wider range of dates: while almost all collectible Shahsevan, S.W. Persian, Yürük, etc., rugs are attributed to the late 19th and early 20th century, a sizable number of extant Türkmen is attributed to the early 19th century and before. Why this difference?
There are several methods for dating rugs but they all leave something to be desired:
Given the fallibility of all these methods, a few questions come to mind:
What are we to think of all the dates in the auction catalogs?
Do we buy a piece because a ‘trustworthy’ dealer touts it as ‘probably 18C?’
Do we still feel confident in dismissing a piece as ‘late’ or accepting it as ‘early’ based on our own judgment?
Here is a case in point: Sotheby’s NY had an Ersari ensi (4/13/95 lot 95) satisfying most of O’Bannon’s above cited criteria. Sotheby’s duly listed it as ‘early 19C.’ O’Bannon himself thought he saw a chemical dye in it, and altogether repudiated his criteria. Another expert saw no chemical dyes, but said the piece was ca. 1875. When asked how he knew, he replied ‘you can tell if you have seen enough pieces,’ but how did he learn to date pieces from observing many rugs of uncertain age? Was he merely perpetuating traditional lore without solid foundations?
Well, enough questions. Let’s go and date some rugs! And if you have interesting example whose age you wish to discuss, please post them here.
P.S. According to the HALI report, the Ersari ensi fragment (Tent Band–Tent Bag p. 120) on which much scorn was heaped in Salon no. 5 (PIC 1) has now been carbon-dated probably to the middle of the 17th century, but no later than 1806.
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