Posted by Daniel Deschuyteneer on December 30, 1998 at 18:59:53:
In Reply to: Another Kurdish rug that fits Daniel's Group posted by Marvin Amstey on December 30, 1998 at 16:40:47:
Dear Marvin,
The rug you posted is very interesting and can be related with one of the Dodds collection which is illustrated in Oriental Rugs from Atlantic Collections plate 111 page 107.
I think Wendel and Ulrich Alheim proposed a Sauj Bulak Kurdish attribution for this rug.
I have other pictures of a very similar one and I am asking to the owner if he would agree that I post them on the board.
The owner said me that he bought it in Irak and that he thought it originated from the Herki tribes.
This rug as yours has flat selvedges and his attribution makes sense as normally (following Eagleton) Sauj Bulag rugs have rounded overcast selvedges. It's also interesting to notice that your rug and the Dodds one have red wefts. It seems that this feature if not specifically was very common in this area.
What's sure is that similar design could have been used by different tribes in this area.
Here is the picture of the related Dodds "2" rug that has been labeled Shasavan, northwestern Iran, 1/3rd quarter 19th century. As Shasavan tribes have very rarely woven pile rugs I am not sure that this attribution is correct.
Comments of the author: Size: 11.5" x 16" Warp: ivory wool, Z2S, level Wefts: red wool, 1-Z spun strand and then Z2S, 2-4 shoots Knot: symmetrical 38/sq. inch Ends: stripped
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Comments: : Dear Marvin, : The rug you posted is very interesting and can be related with one of the Dodds collection which is illustrated in Oriental Rugs from Atlantic Collections plate 111 page 107. : I think Wendel and Ulrich Alheim proposed a Sauj Bulak Kurdish attribution for this rug. : I have other pictures of a very similar one and I am asking to the owner if he would agree that I post them on the board. : The owner said me that he bought it in Irak and that he thought it originated from the Herki tribes. : This rug as yours has flat selvedges and his attribution makes sense as normally (following Eagleton) Sauj Bulag rugs have rounded overcast selvedges. It's also interesting to notice that your rug and the Dodds one have red wefts. It seems that this feature if not specifically was very common in this area. : What's sure is that similar design could have been used by different tribes in this area. : Here is the picture of the related Dodds "2" rug that has been labeled Shasavan, northwestern Iran, 1/3rd quarter 19th century. As Shasavan tribes have very rarely woven pile rugs I am not sure that this attribution is correct. : : ***************TO INSERT PICTURE : Comments of the author: : Size: 11.5" x 16" : Warp: ivory wool, Z2S, level : Wefts: red wool, 1-Z spun strand and then Z2S, 2-4 shoots : Knot: symmetrical 38/sq. inch : Ends: stripped
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