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  • A Baffling Baluch

    Dear all,

    Thank you for your input on the “Ali Mirzai” Baluch. Here’s my other recent Baluch acquisition, which frankly baffles me. It too comes from a local auction (originally from a bourgeois home). This type of Baluch rug, utilizing the Salor gul in its design, is sometimes featured in the relevant literature. Here are the photos of the rug from the auction catalog:

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    The size of the rug is ca. 180 x 100 cm. The six colors include medium/light red, white, medium/light brown, blackish brown (corroded), dark blue, and brownish/light yellow (for accents). More on those shades a little later! All colors seem non-synthetic to me. The pile is practically intact, except for the heavily corroded black-brown.

    The rug feels like it has some age. The handle is soft and supple, reminiscent of Turkmen rugs. For a Baluch rug, the knot count seems to be on the high side (the ruler is in cm):


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    One striking feature about the carpet is, of course, the great difference in colors between the front and back:


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    I do not think this is the result from long-term exposure to direct sunlight, but rather from some sort of chemical treatment (bleaching). Cf. the thread about Joe’s Ersari ensi. In this case, the treatment fortunately seems to have been quite mild and we do not get the full “Golden Afghan” effect—the resulting palette on the front somehow looks almost “Turkmenian,” while the back retains the original coloration:


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    Cf. Siawosch Azadi's Teppiche in der Belutsch-Tradition/Carpets in the Baluch Tradition (Munich: Klinkhardt & Biermann, 1986), plate 30, pp. 146-147. Azadi identifies the rug as “Baluch, Salar Khani?, Kolah Deraz?, Khorasan, Torbat-e Hadari, Northeast Persia, 168 x 90 cm, ca. 1880” (asymmetrical knots). There is a limit of five pictures per entry so I'll post Azadi's rug separately below.

    So what to make of my rug—its age and attribution? To me, the classic design and heavily corroded blackish brown suggest considerable age. Also, this type of bleaching probably has not been practiced for decades(?). On the other hand, the lack of kilims and the rug’s almost perfect condition with full pile (except for that corroded blackish brown) would suggest younger age.

    In case the rug really was of greater age, would the chemical treatment generally destroy its collectability as an example of Baluch art? But whatever it is, it looks quite stunning after a snow wash and is definitely a keeper!

    Best,

    Mikko
    Mikko Saikku
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    Last edited by Mikko Saikku; 02-15-2023, 10:42 PM. Reason: Typos corrected.

  • #2
    And here's Azadi's "Salar Khani?" rug for comparison:

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    Mikko Saikku
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    Last edited by Mikko Saikku; 02-12-2023, 05:15 PM.

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    • #3
      You can find a few photos of Salar Khani rugs and bags at this page: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3553569&type=3

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      • #4
        Thanks, Patrick. However, the link does not seem to work!

        What's your personal take on the rug?

        Best,

        Mikko

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        • #5
          Hi Mikko - Belouch rugs are even more difficult to date than most others. They were still using natural dyes until the end of WW-II. The corroded black, for example, doesn't occur after about 1875 in most weaving groups, but can be found in Belouch weavings until the mid-20th century.

          Patrick's link works for me, so there may be a filter between your location and the page. Who knows?

          Steve Price

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          • #6
            Thanks for the reminder, Steve! And according to a Danish rug book, published in 1945 and translated into Finnish in the 1950s, bleaching by European wholesalers was still widely practiced at that time.

            This rug really intrigues me--it handles more like a 1900 Tekke rug than a period Baluch. (I wonder if the treatment has made it softer and floppier?) The weaving is technically excellent ("almost too precise for a tribal rug"), but the rug still retains tribal elements like non-symmetrical placing of animals and other figures in the main field (backside):


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            Will try to access that Salar Khani site again, using a different computer and browser...

            Best,

            Mikko
            Mikko Saikku
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            Last edited by Mikko Saikku; 02-15-2023, 09:09 AM. Reason: Typo corrected

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            • #7
              Hi Mikko

              The easiest way to distinguish tribal or village rugs from workshop products is that the rugs woven in workshops have perfectly resolved corners. That's nearly impossible to achive without working from a cartoon (a pattern showing every knot).

              Steve Price

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              • #8
                No luck in accessing the site--what's on it?

                Really neat work, but no resolved corners with this rug. I'd like to entertain the idea that an accomplished Turkmen weaver was married into a Baluch family...

                Mikko

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                • #9
                  It's always a challenge to attribute dates to Baluch rugs.

                  For this discussion, I thought it might be of some interest to share another example of a rug that would be attributed by most as a "Salar Khani" rug. I had posted a thread on this rug previously, but I think it was lost in the site transition.

                  In any case, some notes about this rug.

                  The wool is very lustrous and fine. The warps and wefts are extremely fine, and the knotting is finer than any Baluch rug I've encountered (15h x 16v = 240 knots per square inch). I don't think there are many published examples of rugs with such knotting density (though there are a few published trappings with that fineness of weave).

                  The drawing seems particularly good, and it might be interesting to contrast the corner Salar Khani motifs.

                  The in-woven date ("1254") would translate to the 1830s, for what it's worth.

                  James
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                  • #10
                    Hi James,

                    That is one interesting rug. While 1830's would be really early for a Baluch, it definitely looks more archaic/ancient than mine! Still, my rug does not look that different from the one in Azadi's book--ca. 1900/1st quarter 20th century???

                    Best,

                    Mikko

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                    • #11
                      Looking at the texture/patina of the wool, and the drawing of the design, I accept the early date, myself. I don't have Azadi's book, but you can post the example for comparison. I highly doubt that James' piece is c. 1900.

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                      • #12
                        Hi Paul,

                        A slight misunderstanding here, I'm afraid! I was comparing my rug (#1) with Azadi's "ca. 1880" rug (#2). I'd really appreciate your age estimate on it.

                        I have never handled an early 19th century Baluch and suspect they are quite rare. James's piece definitely looks like a 19th century piece to me. How early, I have no idea--but closer to 1850 than 1900 in any case?

                        Best,

                        Mikko
                        Mikko Saikku
                        Junior Member
                        Last edited by Mikko Saikku; 02-27-2023, 09:05 AM.

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                        • #13
                          For what it's worth, Frank Diehr indicated that the early date for my Salar Khani rug didn't seem to be a stretch. There are very few examples with early in-woven dates, and as I noted above the fineness of knotting is highly unusual, based on my perusal of published examples. I have seen and handled quite a few Baluch rugs that would be considered "late 19th / early 20th", and this rug is certainly finer and has more luster. Also, the drawing of key elements (including the minor border) is particularly well-articulated.

                          What is always uncertain is how quickly these sorts of changes in materials, technical aspects, drawing, etc. occur over time. One generation? Two generations?

                          James

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                          • Carpetlars
                            Carpetlars
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                            Carpetlars commented
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                            Hello James, from our exhibition showing 207 Baluch both piled and woven, only 7 had inscriptions / dates, greetings Lars

                        • #14
                          Hi

                          I’m new to this forum and new to rugs. I’ve just unrolled a rug that I’ve had in storage for years - I’d actually forgotten about it! I was immediately intrigued by the design and keen to learn more about the rug’s origins. It has some old damage to the fringe at one end and along parts of one of the sides. Sadly it also has a number of small patches of moth larvae created holes. After days of somewhat fruitless searching I came across Mikko’s post and noticed an identical border on his 'Baffling Baluch' rug to one on mine. Thank you Mikko! I see also similarities in other design features (the guls and animal motifs), the colouring and edge finish. The rug is an unusual size ( 2.3 x 1m) feels quite soft and supple, and has a decent amount of pile remaining. There’s also a nice old cleaning label on the back in one corner. I’ve also noticed some knotted tufts of wool sticking through the goats hair edging at regular intervals along the sides. I’m struggling to work out the knot count - haven’t quite worked out what to count!. Anyway, thanks for bearing with me so far. Here are some images of the rug.




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                          From Mikko’s post and the really interesting thread I’m not totally clear on the final verdict. I think it is being described as Baluch but there’s a mention of Tekke origin. Date wise late 19th century is mentioned as is some time in 20th century. Am I correct in saying that my rug is of same origin as Mikko’s rug and possibly of similar age whatever that might be? Appreciate any observations and thoughts about my rug.
                          Many thanks
                          Gary Neville
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                          • #15
                            Hi Gary, that piece is definitely not Tekke Turkmen work; it is Baluch-group weaving, and I think a nice example of one of this type that is usually ascribed to the region around Zabol in Afghanistan. My date guess is c.1900. Here is an archived T'tek thread that deals with these rugs... http://www.turkotek.com/misc_00047/t...ls_belouch.htm

                            Salar Khani rugs (Mikko's rug) are a distinct group, woven by Timuri weavers, I think.

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