Hello, I need help with this choval.

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  • Hello, I need help with this choval.

    I bought this little piece recently at a local flee market. It is very finely made and with a magnificent wine red (bordeaux) color and shiny wool. I am an old collector, but mainly antique Turkish and Caucasian rugs. My little literature on this field (Gantzhorn) suggests that it is Saryk. Thanks for your help.
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    Peter Fischer
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    Last edited by Peter Fischer; 02-08-2023, 08:22 AM.

  • #2
    Hi Peter,

    Plenty of more qualified commentators here, but I might as well start the discussion. The excellent work(wo)manship, flattened guls, and synthetic-looking orange remind me of a couple of Tekke chuvals I have:

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    Both have usually been dated as 1st quarter, 20th century. Of course, the elem and borders in your bagface are quite different.

    But can someone provide some tips on how to differentiate between later (i.e. ca. 1900) Saryk and Tekke bagfaces?

    Best,

    Mikko
    Mikko Saikku
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    Last edited by Mikko Saikku; 02-07-2023, 06:28 PM.

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    • #3
      It comes down to knots and symbols within the piece to tell the difference. Tekke used the asymmetric knot (Persian knot) open to the right. The Saryk and some Yomut groups were the only Turkmen tribes to use the symmetric knot (Turkish knot)
      Joe Lawrence

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      • #4
        Hi Peter,

        To my eye, the absence of any warp depression, the minor borders, and the palette all point toward a late 19th-early 20th century Tekke attribution. Pieces of this size -or smaller- are typically referred to as a jollar; a bit longer and taller but with a similar aspect length-to-width ratio, a torba. Chuvals are larger and have a much lower aspect ratio. Here is a similar Tekke piece from our collection.

        Regards
        Chuck

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        • #5
          Thank you all for your valuable information. As far as I can see from the back I think the knotting is asymmetric, therefore Tekke. Greetings from Spain, Peter

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