Some other examples

Bonjour

Here are some turkmen embroideries on which I need some expert views.

First one a square piece that could be a part of a Tekke(?) item (maybe botche), made from fabric with embroideries. Dimensions about 20x20 cm (one view and one detail)






Second a little bag (about 20x17 cm) that seems to be made like a patchwork from different parts of different embroidered fabrics (one view of each face and one detail by each face). Tekke or yomut ?










Third a fragment of what seems to be a bag. The field is made of coarse balanced plain weave and the motifs seem to be embroidered (see the back closeup). The design seems to be Yomut for me.







Fourth, two fragments of two Yomut tent bands. The fabric is a warp dominant weaving. Can we consider the coloured geometric motifs as embroidery? Or how can we call this technic ? On the back there is no visible design, but the fabric is "corrugated" like the design. (two view, two details, one back closeup)











Fifth, one Kirghiz ok bosh (?). I do not remember if the Kirghizes are turkmens or not. This an example of embroidery on felt. (one view, one detail)





Voilà, c'est tout pour aujourd'hui.

Amicales salutations à tous

Louis Dubreuil

Hi Louis

Some of these are embroideries, some aren't. It would make discussion of your pieces very much easier if they were posted in small groups, especially when they are of different types.

The first two (the bokche(?) and the patchwork bag) are embroidered, apparently with silk floss. I would be very much interested in opinions of their tribal attribution, especially on the basis of those opinions.

The third piece (the fragment) is brocaded, not embroidered, and I doubt that it's Turkmen.

The fourth is a Yomud flatwoven tentband. The textile is warp-faced, and not an embroidery. We rarely talk about Turkmen flatwoven textiles, and I wish more people would post and comment on this interesting group.

The last piece is embroidered with wool. These are usually attributed to Uzbek, but I suspect that they can be from other places in Central Asia as well.

Regards,

Steve Price

Bib

Hi Louis,

Here's am image of an embroidered childs bib, which was
represented to me as being Tekke Turkoman work (20th century),
which shares a lot of the characteristics of your second image:



Enjoy,
Chuck Wagner

__________________
Chuck Wagner

A Few From Kalter

Chuck, Louis, and All- A couple of bibs from Kalter's The Arts and Crafts of Turkestan.





Children's bibs from N. Afghanistan. Upper and right piece show embroidery style of N. Afghan Turkmen. In lower left Turkmen style (inside) and Lakai Uzbek style(outside) were used side by side.