Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 01-25-2004 10:02 AM:

SALON PART III is up - and two more paintings

Dear all,

The third part of the Salon is up: Part III

It deals with an Italian Orientalist, Giulio Rosati. There are several kilims in his paintings and I’d like to present here two more pictures with kilims by two different artists.

Prayer by Pierre or Piet Jan van der OUDERAA (Belgium, 1841-1915)





And The Opium Smoker, oil, by Jean Jules Antoine LECOMTE DU NOUY (France,1842-1923)



I hope you will be interested.
Regards,

Filiberto

Posted by Louis Dubreuil on 02-13-2004 12:16 PM:

Cher Filiberto

These two kilms are from Caucasus/Azerbaidjan region.

The first one, with the old man praying, is a kilim cover or carpet of Azeri origine or even armenian. The colour scale with the electric blue seems to be Azeri. (look at the book "caucasian carpets and covers" de Richard E. Wright et J. T. Wertime.

The second one is certainly a Pardaghi from a little region named TOUCHETIE in Georgia.

I'll send pictures to illustrate my explanations (as soon as I can use the scan at my office).

Salutations
Louis Dubreuil

Ed. note - here are the pictures:

Azeri or Armenian kilim



Azeri kilim detail



Touchetie Pardaghi



map of Georgia

Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 02-14-2004 05:09 AM:

Hi Louis,

I agree that the kilim in the second painting is Caucasian, although - prudentially - I wouldn’t go further about its attribution.

The identity of the first one is more difficult because the image has not enough detail. The devices visible at the kilim end are sufficiently clear, though, and I do not remember anything like this in a Caucasian kilim. They give me more an Anatolian "feeling".
Regards,

Filiberto

Posted by Louis Dubreuil on 02-14-2004 10:25 AM:

Cher Filiberto

In my opinion there is nothing "anatolian" in the first kilim. I have never seen in an antolian kilim the use of toothed stripes between main design stripes, while this is a common feature in azeri or caucasian weavings. In anatolian kilims there are also very frequently lateral borders, they are lacking here. The colours are more azeri than anatolian. The only doubt is for the repeated devices in the first design stripe that have a quite anatolian look, but I do not know any anatolian kilim with this exact design.

A suivre

Louis Dubreuil