You show very interesting pieces in you Salon, thanks a lot.

At your request I have put up here some images sent to you by someone, who, while browsing the net, found another rug similar to Rug 3.

It was sold some time ago on a well-known web site that we should probably not mention here.

Here are the pictures:

The size is 9ft 9in by 4ft 4in.
Regards,

Filiberto

My thanks to Filiberto for getting the above message and images up.

The message above and a link to the images there were sent to me "out of the blue" by a Mr. Bob Kent.

As he noted, the similarity between this rug and Rug 3 in the salon is remarkable.

Here again is the image to Rug 3:

We have also been successful in contacting this similar rug's owner and he has agreed to post in this thread about his piece.

I should also take this opportunity to correct something I reported erroneously earlier about Rug 3. I included it in my listing to Vincent Keers of those pieces in Jim Blackmon's presentation that likely have the "symmetric knot on alternative raised warps" structure and, in fact, Blackmon says clearly, in the initial salon essay, that Rug 3 has a "classic" single-wefted Kyrghyz structure.

Some of us were impressed enough with Rug 3 to describe its drawing as "monumental" and it is rather amazing to encounter another rather quickly that seems so similar.

Our thanks to Mr. Kent for alertly bringing this piece to our attention.

Mark van Raaij, the owner of this other piece has agreed to comment further on it.

Our thanks to him,too, for being willing to do so.

Regards,

R. John Howe

this is another example of Rug 3 of John Howe Salon.

It was published on Hali Issue 33 pag. 104 and labeled Kirghiz Carpet, late 19th century (1.52x3.00m).
The caption says:
"This beautifully barbaric East Turkestan carpet was acquired in China in 1986 and is attributed to the Kirghiz tribe. Like many Ersari carpets it uses a Persian derived motif .... It has a surprisingly wide palette of rich colours, including undyed ivory wool and lovely blue green ... it is a splendid and dramatically attractive old carpet of a rare type".

How really old are these carpets?

Thanks,

Guido

story.... true story.... From research on learning words, psychologists once believed that memory was quite limited. Then one Laurel Standing got 20,000 pictures of different things (carrot, wheelbarrow, etc), showed 10,000 of them to people quickly, and tested by showing all 20,000 and asking for yes/no picture recognition... did you see this before? They knew, the study is called "learning 10,000 pictures." Fine and well, until some wise guy used your tax money to photograph 20,000 snowflakes... bob

Filiberto