We had less success with the "four-lobed medallion" Kaitag group, although it does appear that the design has its roots in the Persian rather than the Turkish vocabulary. Richard Farber presented an interesting likely precursor to the design group, too, one that brings in the importance of the flame as a protective device. We also have some reasons to believe that certain specimens of this group were dowry wrappers while others - probably the majority - were used to protect infants from the evil eye.

This, I think, is how we learn: people toss in their ideas and the bases for those ideas, and we follow the evidence and arguments wherever they lead us. I believe that this is kind of fun, and am convinced that it is useful.

Thanks to all who participated.

Steve Price