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Subject  :  creative writing 101
Author  :  Richard Farber mailto:%20farberr@netvision.net.il
Date  :  12-06-2000 on 12:24 a.m.
Dear Mr. Silverman,

congratulations on your hobby, or should I say your meta-hobby - the hobby about your hobby.

I have been toying with the idea about an opera concerning textiles for quite a few years and have not yet found the 'handle'. I might not find the ensi but the idea is still there stitching away as I compose other operas. But now to your questions

1) What other types of ruggies deserve a horrible death?

flea market dealers who with blow torches 'age' rugs and sell them for antiques .. . just imagine the instrument of death.

dealers who cut up textiles and sell the pieces hoping to earn more money.

critics (or is this just a prejudice of my profession?). Imagine a business man who sets up a carpet manufacture and produces wonderful rugs but is ridiculed by a critic who only values antiques

2) What sort of deaths can be tied-in with ruggish pursuits?

west Nile fever . . associated with a tick which could be transported on a carpet .. .

suffocation under piles of carpets stacked to collapse on the victim.

3) What kind of ruggish behavior could be inflicted on someone that would lead to his madness?

being cheated, or being led to believe that you have been cheated. (Othello)

4) What kind of response do you imagine from the rest of the rug world as they discerned a serial killer moving around them?

Sorry don't know the rug world . . .us textile folks are a more refined and nonviolent????

5) Should the killer be caught?

John Cage would have suggested you flip a coin.

This note is before coffee . .

Richard Farber


Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Jerry Silverman mailto:%20rug_books@silvrmn.com
Date  :  12-06-2000 on 01:40 a.m.
Dear Richard,

How perceptive of you! Addressing this topic BEFORE having your coffee is exactly the way to do it. That pre-coffee edginess is what I'm looking for.

(Let that be a lesson to all the rest of you.)

West Nile Fever has a nice Middle-eastern sensibility to it, too. I'm not sure it will kill very quickly though. And just making the baddies really, really sick isn't where we want to go with this, now, is it? We're looking for grisly deaths. Being crushed under a stack of rugs is much more on point. Especially if they're musty, mildewy, dry rotted crap in the back of an unscrupulous rug dealer's shop - that he's trying to sell as "precious oriental handwoven art."

Just being cheated isn't likely to drive one to madness. If that were so, most rug collectors would be several sandwiches short of a picnic. Uh-oh. Maybe you've got something there.

-Jerry-


Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Steve Price mailto:%20sprice@hsc.vcu.edu
Date  :  12-06-2000 on 08:44 a.m.
Dear Richard,

May I suggest that your opera include a death scene in which the hero (if it is a tragedy) or the villain (if it is a comedy) dies as a result of being shot by a rug. It would be a flying Afghan war rug, of course, and the weapon would be a German Mauser cleverly incorporated into the design as a motif in the lower third of the rug (the trigger being the demarcation point of the Internal Elem which the victim cannot resist touching - it has magical powers, you know).

The flying rug element is very oriental and exotic, and the opera could be titled, "Die Fledermauser".

Steve Price


Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Richard Farber mailto:%20farberr@netvision.net.il
Date  :  12-06-2000 on 09:09 a.m.
Great fun guys !

Further carpet creep codas . . .how about the bath of chemicals used to try to bleach brown suzani karbos to white .. .I've seen them try to do that in the flea market. . .

or the chemical bath used to kill the color of a 1950s monstrosity and then the carpet is touted as being made at the end of the 19th century for the 'American market'

or the spotches added with markers on bald spots being a rare desease that affects the creeps

Some carpet gremlin has been adding smile-icons to the messages . . .

no comment on critics maybe they don't exist in the ruggie world

I still like the blow torch.

But seriously there have been a number of publised thefts of textiles [I can imagine that carpets have also been stolen] I could well imagine developing a plot around the theft of an imortant collect . . .after some years the pieces appear in Chicago . . .trips to Israel and to Central Asia . . .

good hunting

Richard


Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Marvin Amstey mailto:%20mamstey1@rochester.rr.com
Date  :  12-06-2000 on 09:22 a.m.
Aside from West Nile Virus whose tick has never been reported in a rug or wool, there is a well-known and feared pathogen associated with wool. Anthrax was once known as "wool sorter's disease" in 19th century England. It was the cause of a modern (1960's) epidemic in New England where air currents carried Anthrax from a warehouse storing wool and woolen products into the adjacent building killing a few people. Anthrax is the darling of the bioterrorism world prompting our own local medical community to run through a mock drill as an emergency response to Anthrax bioterrorism. Go for it, Jerry.
Best regards,
Marvin

Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Jerry Silverman mailto:%20rug_books@silvrmn.com
Date  :  12-06-2000 on 03:31 p.m.
Oooooooooh, anthrax.

Now yer' talkin', Marvin.

Let's say a baddy gets an anthrax-laden rug. He breathes in the stuff. Dies an ugly death. How long does it take him to die? What are the symptoms? How long is the anthrax contagious? If the baddy dies alone, how long does it take for his corpse to be non-contagious?

Use of this bio-toxin would open the issue of bioterrorism and direct attention away from the serial killer. I like this potential for misdirection.

-Jerry-


Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Marvin Amstey mailto:%20mamstey1@rochester.rr.com
Date  :  12-06-2000 on 05:34 p.m.
Hi Jerry,
The symptoms occur in 1-5 days: severe fever, cough, pneumonia, swollen lymph nodes; generally an unpleasant death. The body will remain infectious for nearly ever. People who handle the corpse must be careful

Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Marvin Amstey mailto:%20mamstey1@rochester.rr.com
Date  :  12-06-2000 on 05:38 p.m.
sorry - didn't finish. Death occurs also in a few days unless a very smart doctor can make the diagnosis and treat with the correct antibiotic. Since most docs have never seen a case, most could not make the diagnosis.
Best regards,
Marvin

Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Filiberto Boncompagni mailto:%20filibert@go.com.jo
Date  :  12-07-2000 on 02:16 a.m.
Nice idea, but quite unpractical: one cannot buy anthrax in a drugstore. Unless you know somebody working in a biotech laboratory… And I suppose it is more dangerous to handle, from a killer point of view.
Nah, Ricin should be easier. You only need some (?) pounds of castor beans, acetone, acetic acid and a centrifugal. Those things should be much easier to find. Then some time for joyous experimentation in your garage…
Regards,

Filiberto Boncompagni


Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Marvin Amstey mailto:%20mamstey1@rochester.rr.com
Date  :  12-07-2000 on 10:54 a.m.
Filiberto is right.
Regards,
Marvin

Subject  :  Re:creative writing 101
Author  :  Jerry Silverman mailto:%20rug_books@silvrmn.com
Date  :  12-07-2000 on 02:02 p.m.
And besides, our serial killer may be a madman; but he isn't killing innocents. He just wants revenge on the people who've done him wrong. Plagues and other wildly contagious diseases don't serve the killer's needs.

I'm a little worried, though, about how the curare-coated staples that Hogshead pricks his finger on will be disposed of. Or will they just be ignored?

-Jerry-


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