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Subject  :  TRACKING THE ARCHETYPE
Author  :  Deschuyteneer Daniel
Date  :  09-09-2000 on 04:44 a.m.
Dear all, I wrote during this Salon that I was convinced that the "angular arrow motif" lies in the warp-substitution structure and, quoted a lecture of Marla Mallett for the 7th International Conference on Oriental Carpets (ICOC) that was published in Oriental Rug Review, Dec./January 1994, Volume 14, Number 2. The arguments she has developed “passionately” in an earlier posting during this Salon can’t convince any one without some technical background and many more photos, as there are so many different spin-offs from that arrow and half-arrow warp-substitution motif, as well as from several other warp-substitution forms. I am glad to inform you that, at my request and although it has been a very big work, Marla Mallett has posted a revised version of her lecture with a lot of photo onto her Website. It’s written with “panache” and its reading is really worthwhile for all of us who want to explore this problem thoroughly. Install you comfortably, it’s a big article… http://www.marlamallett.com/archetyp.htm Thanks, Daniel

Subject  :  RE:TRACKING THE ARCHETYPE
Author  :  Bob+Emry
Date  :  09-09-2000 on 09:46 p.m.
emry@starpower.net Hello All: One last post for me in this salon. The picture below is of a pile Shahsavan rug (from a Rippon Boswell Auction Advertisement, HALI 95, Nov 1997, page 52). Does anyone doubt that the design of this pile rug was derived from a warp-faced flatweave design? If you follow the link that Daniel provided above to Marla's article, you will find a picture of a Kurdish jajim with similar motifs, but jajims attributed to Shahsavan are also similar. Aren't some of the designs in this pile rug the "angular arrows" we have been discussing. And thanks to Daniel for a really super salon. It has been enjoyable and informative. Best wishes, Bob Emry

Subject  :  RE:TRACKING THE ARCHETYPE
Author  :  Michael Wendorf
Date  :  09-09-2000 on 11:55 p.m.
Dear Bob: This famous piece found in Turkey by Chuck Paterson of Boulder, Colorado and later part of the Kailash gallery is a rare thing. But here isn't the weaver just copying a jajim directly? It seems that is a little different from what we have been discussing where we see elaboration and distinct field arrangement different from the jajim usage, still there is no question but that this derives from warp substitution. I agree about this Salon, fantastic! I am glad you participated. Best, Michael

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