Posted by Daniel Deschuyteneer on August 02, 1999 at 05:52:01:
In Reply to: Talish? posted by Daniel Deschuyteneer on August 02, 1999 at 05:49:56:
: Dear Vincent and you all,
: I am always glad to meet European (I am Belgian) on this site, hoping you will continue to participate in our discussions.
: When I proposed a Gendge attribution for your rug it was only a guess based only on similarities in design and colour scheme, without any structural information's and not having handled the rug. I agree with you that such rugs could have been woven in Anatolia.
: You noticed that Wendel's rug has minor borders very similar as minor borders found in Talish rugs, and you are perfectly right.
: Similarities in design are helpful but they are rarely the clue. Structure, type of wool and colour scheme are better guide lines.
: I have seen this type of minor borders in many eastern south Caucasian rugs as well as North west Persian rugs and rugs woven by Turkish tribes, and as Talesh was occupied by Turks it isn't astonishing that they used this kind of borders
: A Talish attribution may be refuted on design and structural characteristics.
: 1/ Talish rugs are far more finely knotted and the knot count rarely drops below 1000 kpsd or 63 kpsi.
: 2/ Alternated depressed warps is a common feature.
: 3/ Wendel's rug lacks a characteristic feature of the Talish family. The edges reinforced by mostly blue, sometimes red wefts protrude into the field in the shape of long 5-10 cm long wedges. Marla Mallet noticed that the wefts protrusions interlaced pairs of ground warps and asked herself if it was a peculiar feature of the Talish rug family. Look at woven structure updates on her web site.
: Last I have added some picture to permit you to make border comparisons if you haven't the referenced books.
: Cordially,
: Daniel
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