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Posted by Marvin Amstey on January 25, 1999 at 18:50:30:

In Reply to: Re: A comment posted by Michael Wendorf on January 25, 1999 at 16:39:51:

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: : The comments have been:

: : : : I would like to ask one question: Does anybody seriously believes that the set of rules in our checklist, or anything at all like them, can capture the esthetic perceptions of the human mind?

: : : : Regards, Yon

: : : The answer for me is "no". Marvin

: : Some very interesting propositions have been put before us. Despite having personally spent some time considering and addressing matters of design origin, symmetry and aesthetics, I am working to understand and apply the Alexander-Salingaros concepts.

: : This is clearly not a flash-card "I like it; I don't like it" exercise. We would all be wise not to dismiss what is before us without first understanding it.

: : Each of us already knows WHETHER we like a particular rug (food, beverage, music, painting, etc.) but when this Salon concludes, some may better understand WHY.

: : Remember what your mother always said: "Try it; you'll like it."

: : Wendel

: Wendel and friends:
: It wasn't just my mother, it was LIFE cereal and the "give it to Mikey he'll eat anything" line. I agree that there are some very interesting propositions here. The problem is wading through it, thinking about it and applying it is time consuming. It may take me more than a week just to internalize the ideas which are so interesting. Anyway, I too hope others will find the patience to follow through to test the results. At the least this makes reading Alexander a lot more interesting.
: Regards, Michael

I've tried it, and I still don't like it. I have applied all of the check list to each of the carpets that John has posted, and yes, the criteria work for them. However, I still am not fond of the Caucasian, and I am not excited about Tekke engsi #2, even though the criteria list gives it the highest score - for me - of the three. I like #1 the most, but the criteria, nor the essays tell me why. I'm afraid that I can't endorse this theory; Yon stated that one can program a computer to use the criteria or whatever commands one wishes, but it can not program my mind. Marvin

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: : : : : The comments have been: : : : : : I would like to ask one question: Does anybody seriously believes that the set of rules in our checklist, or anything at all like them, can capture the esthetic perceptions of the human mind? : : : : : Regards, Yon : : : : The answer for me is "no". Marvin : : : Some very interesting propositions have been put before us. Despite having personally spent some time considering and addressing matters of design origin, symmetry and aesthetics, I am working to understand and apply the Alexander-Salingaros concepts. : : : This is clearly not a flash-card "I like it; I don't like it" exercise. We would all be wise not to dismiss what is before us without first understanding it. : : : Each of us already knows WHETHER we like a particular rug (food, beverage, music, painting, etc.) but when this Salon concludes, some may better understand WHY. : : : Remember what your mother always said: "Try it; you'll like it." : : : Wendel : : Wendel and friends: : : It wasn't just my mother, it was LIFE cereal and the "give it to Mikey he'll eat anything" line. I agree that there are some very interesting propositions here. The problem is wading through it, thinking about it and applying it is time consuming. It may take me more than a week just to internalize the ideas which are so interesting. Anyway, I too hope others will find the patience to follow through to test the results. At the least this makes reading Alexander a lot more interesting. : : Regards, Michael : I've tried it, and I still don't like it. I have applied all of the check list to each of the carpets that John has posted, and yes, the criteria work for them. However, I still am not fond of the Caucasian, and I am not excited about Tekke engsi #2, even though the criteria list gives it the highest score - for me - of the three. I like #1 the most, but the criteria, nor the essays tell me why. I'm afraid that I can't endorse this theory; Yon stated that one can program a computer to use the criteria or whatever commands one wishes, but it can not program my mind. Marvin

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