Re: ILME TULU

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: : Dear folks, : : I Apologize if part of this post is redundant with Wendel message, but I was already busy to writing it when Wendel posted his. : : I suggest reading a first rate article in Hali 100 page 86, "Back to Basics", written by John T. Wertime. : : Concerning "primitive" rugs Wertime shows examples of animal pelts sewn together to make rugs and of "long fur like pile" rugs imitating them. : : Also, different Turkish/Kurdish rugs are discussed by Wertime: : : 1/siirts or faux pile mat : : 2/çeki tülü mohair pile rugs : : 3/hali : : 4/filikli : : 5/ilme tülü : : Steve's "Tülü" rug seems to fit the description of Anatolian "filikli" pile rugs traditionally in goat hair (mohair). : : Following Wertime "filikli" characteristics are: : : Structure: : : Weft faced plain weave ground with very long "symmetrically knotted" pile (up to 15cm) of "unspun" and "untrimmed" "mohair" fibres of "unequal" : : length. : : The rows of knots are widely spaced by multiple rows of ground wefts (up to 5 cm) between the rows of knots : : Design: : : As the pile is very long designs are rudimentary and palettes of this rugs are limited and ranges from one colour (dyed or not) to several. : : **** : : Some months ago I handled four Karapinar "ilme tülü" rugs. Here is a summary of the characteristics I noticed concerning these four rugs: : : They all have a gabbeh like structure with an all wool foundation. : : They are thick and the handle is floppy. : : They are very coarsely woven with sheep's wool - symmetric knots, thick dry wool and high pile. : : They all have a high count of wefts from 2 to 7. : : They all have flat selvage of 2 cords of 2 ground warps which are overcast. : : They all have wide plain weave ends. : : A description of each one can be found at the : : bottom of this post and pictures of Tulu N° 4 are added. In this one the shorter pile enables the rendering of smaller complex design and the ends : : finishing let me think that it could be hanged. : : Following Wertime : "The peculiar qualities of "primitive" rugs make them particularly suitable for use as blankets and covers as well as for sitting, sleeping and hanging. Some long-pile textiles may also have been used as garments" : : Best wishes and thanks to Steve for this very interesting topic. : : Daniel : : TULU N° 4 : : Dimension: : : Knots: coarsely woven, symmetric knots, very thick pile, height 15 mm : : Warps: white wool, no warp depression : : Wefts: colored wool, 2-4 shoots : : Selvage: two cords overcast : : Top ends: 7cm balanced plain weave ends, plied and sewn : : Bottom ends: 8 cm balanced plain weave ends + the warps are replied and sewn to make a loop. Through the loops, three thick cords of two Z2S horse hair strands. : : Colours: chemical wash : : TULU N° 5 : : Dimension: 125cm X 76cm : : Knots: coarsely woven, symmetric knots, very thick dry wool, pile height 10 mm : : Density: H20/10cm V 16/10 cm 320/dm˛; H 5/pi V4/pi 20/psi : : Warps: white wool, Z2S, loosely twisted, no warp depression, handle floppy : : Wefts: white, grey or brown wool, 2-5 shoots : : Selvage: two cords of two warps ground wefted and overcast : : Top ends: 1,5 cm balanced plain weave : : Bottom ends: 1,5 cm balanced plain weave : : Colours: chemical wash : : TULU N° 6 : : Dimension: 130cm X 95cm : : Knots: very coarsely woven, symmetric knots, very thick dry wool, pile height 13 mm : : Warps: thick white wool, Z2S, loosely twisted, no warp depression, handle : : floppy : : Wefts: mostly grey wool + coloured wefts of different thickness, 2-3 shoots : : Selvage: flat selvage two cords of two warps ground wefted and overcast : : Top ends: 4 cm balanced plain weave + fringe : : Bottom ends: 4 cm balanced plain weave with red wefts, plied and sewn : : Colours: chemical wash : : TULU N° 7 : : Dimension: 148cm X 96cm : : Knots: very coarsely woven, symmetric knots, very thick dry wool, pile height 15 mm : : Warps: thick white wool, Z2S, loosely twisted, no warp depression, handle very thick and floppy : : Wefts: white wool, 2 shoots : : Selvage: flat selvage two cords of two warps ground wefted and overcast : : Top ends: 2,5 cm balanced plain weave + plied and sewn : : Bottom ends: 2,5 cm balanced plain weave + plied and sewn : : Colours: chemical wash : : : : Picture Attachments: : Daniel, Thanks for the images; they are helpful in understanding the structure of these creatures. I also noted three of the rugs you describe that they had a chemical wash. Was this done in Turkey or in the European market? Marvin

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