Re: Visible Suspending Cord Attachments

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Posted by Marvin on November 30, 1998 at 18:48:24:

In Reply to: Re: Visible Suspending Cord Attachments posted by R. John Howe on November 29, 1998 at 05:41:10:

: Daniel -

: I are right and I'm ashamed that I didn't notice. Wendel and I have been passing these particular images back and forth and I don't think either of us saw this feature. This is a demonstration of the falsity of the American expression that "a camel is a horse built by a committee." Different folks see different things. Thanks for the sharp eyes.

: Regards,

: John Howe

:
: : Dear folks,

: : Don't quit this discussion before attentively examinate presented here :

: :
: : Wendel Swan wrote:
: : "As you know, textile cradles are suspended, much like a hammock. Like other cradles with which I have some familiarity, Turkmen cradles are, according to this source, generally rectangular. This makes sense, of course, because the warps could easily be braided into cords for suspension. I would think it more difficult to fashion braided cords on a shaped end as most of the salatchaks seem to have."
: : "This raises a question about the salatchak under discussion: Given the fact that it is bound or overcast all the way around, how could it have been suspended or was it suspended?"

: : Look now at the pictures:
: : The picture from George O'Bannon's Moshkova translation. is very interesting and help us in our discussion.
: : This is the first picture where remnants of cords can clearly be seen at the pole of the rug and along the sides, and this one was surely suspended.
: : When magnifying the two pictures from Uwe Jourdan book it seems that remnants of fixation's can also be seen, peculiarly in the second one.

: : So I think that "cradle rugs" were really suspended and could be used as cradle but that Wendel's rug shown here had perhaps another function. The shape only doesn't make the function.

: : Best wishes

: : Daniel Deschuyteneer

John mentioned that there were two "salatchaks" in Loges. The one (plate 53, German edition)is now mine. Where is the second one? I can say with certainty that the first had no cord attachments from the edges - most of which are original. I'm still convinced that these were horsecovers. Marvin

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: : Daniel - : : I are right and I'm ashamed that I didn't notice. Wendel and I have been passing these particular images back and forth and I don't think either of us saw this feature. This is a demonstration of the falsity of the American expression that "a camel is a horse built by a committee." Different folks see different things. Thanks for the sharp eyes. : : Regards, : : John Howe : : : : : : Dear folks, : : : Don't quit this discussion before attentively examinate presented here : : : : : : : Wendel Swan wrote: : : : "As you know, textile cradles are suspended, much like a hammock. Like other cradles with which I have some familiarity, Turkmen cradles are, according to this source, generally rectangular. This makes sense, of course, because the warps could easily be braided into cords for suspension. I would think it more difficult to fashion braided cords on a shaped end as most of the salatchaks seem to have." : : : "This raises a question about the salatchak under discussion: Given the fact that it is bound or overcast all the way around, how could it have been suspended or was it suspended?" : : : Look now at the pictures: : : : The picture from George O'Bannon's Moshkova translation. is very interesting and help us in our discussion. : : : This is the first picture where remnants of cords can clearly be seen at the pole of the rug and along the sides, and this one was surely suspended. : : : When magnifying the two pictures from Uwe Jourdan book it seems that remnants of fixation's can also be seen, peculiarly in the second one. : : : So I think that "cradle rugs" were really suspended and could be used as cradle but that Wendel's rug shown here had perhaps another function. The shape only doesn't make the function. : : : Best wishes : : : Daniel Deschuyteneer : John mentioned that there were two "salatchaks" in Loges. The one (plate 53, German edition)is now mine. Where is the second one? I can say with certainty that the first had no cord attachments from the edges - most of which are original. I'm still convinced that these were horsecovers. Marvin

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