June 17th, 2010, 10:40 AM   1
Steve Price
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Airport art?

Hi People

Cassin, whose capacity for absurdity seems to be unlimited, made remarks about the pieces in the Mini-Salon essay on his "discussion forum" (his post briefly appeared on Turkotek because I forgot to set the software to direct posts from unregistered readers into the moderator queue). Here, abridged for brevity and civility, is the gist:
... price's piece is an airport-art rendition of earlier, truly indigenous, weaving. ... The other examples ... are equally as unimportant and tainted by the disintegration all Turkmen groups experienced beginning as early as the mid-18th century. ... even though price's chuval, and the others, are surely made prior to the mid-19th century they are ... late, ungainly representations of earlier work.

It's obvious enough that nothing woven prior to the mid-19th century (he's sure that's true of all three pieces) could have been woven with the intention that it would be sold at an airport gift shop - there were none. But apart from picking that nit, what did he mean by the phrase "airport art"? I assume that he means that the three pieces were woven with the intention of being sold as souvenirs or curios. At least, I can't think of another interpretation that even comes close to making sense.

All three pieces are in the hands of westerners now, so they must have been exported at some point. The two pieces that aren't mine show obvious stretching, almost certainly indicating that they were used as containers. This is reasonable evidence that both of them were woven for use within the local community.

The assertion that Turkmen weavings made after the mid-18th century are "unimportant and tainted by the disintegration of all Turkmen" weavings is interesting. For one thing, it implies that it's possible to reliably distinguish mid-18th from mid-19th century stuff. And if post-1750 Turkmen work is degenerate, what reason is there to believe that Turkmen work done in, say, 1700 isn't degenerate relative to Turkmen work of 1600? And, by extension, that weavings done in 1600 aren't degenerate relative to those done in 1500 (and so forth, all the way back to the Pazyryk rug, perhaps bought by Scythians at a Turkmen going out of business sale)?



Regards

Steve Price
June 17th, 2010, 10:47 AM   2
James Blanchard
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Hi Steve,

I am obviously not traveling in the right airports!

I really like your juval / trapping...

James
June 17th, 2010, 12:40 PM   3
Steve Price
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Hi James

Maybe they sell these things in gift shops in the private clubs airports have for favored customers and first class passengers. They won't let me in any of those, so I have no way of knowing what they have.

Regards

Steve Price