Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 09-23-2004 02:34 AM:

Mystery Textile Number 5

Hi People

Here is Richard's fifth mystery textile:


Posted by Horst Nitz on 09-23-2004 04:20 PM:

Hi

It looks as if it belongs on a hanger rather than on the floor- a Central Asian garment?

Reggards,

Horst


Posted by Chuck Wagner on 09-24-2004 05:07 PM:

Greetings all,

I've seen such edging tape on both Kyrgyz and Uzbek textiles. The only one I've seen on a garment was folded over the edge of the underlying garment cloth and stitched to the garment.

I can't see whether this tape is cross stitched or chain stitched, but looking at the other embroidery work, I'll say this is an Uzbek tapestry of some sort. I suppose it could be a suzani, although I've never personally seen one with edge tape.

Here's an example of chain stitched Uzbek edge tape finishing:



Regards,
Chuck Wagner

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Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 09-25-2004 02:35 AM:

Richard sent a new image:


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 09-29-2004 03:56 AM:

New image:


Posted by Filiberto Boncompagni on 10-04-2004 01:54 AM:


Posted by Vincent Keers on 10-07-2004 11:43 AM:

Hi,

Wild Tulips!
Sword like drawings in the border.

Must be Ottoman.
A wall hanging.
Embroidery.

Best regards,
Vincent


Posted by Richard Farber on 10-07-2004 11:52 AM:

dear vincent keer


turking drums
jar drums
zornas
and two cane clarinets in a wild frenzy but


NO


as was clued before: this embroidery is from a valley on the silk road . . .

what is the valley ?

what it is, we know

the date ? please guess



the attribution . . .ah that is the game.




mr. wagner has come very close with his clear notice of the card weave ending of the embroidery . . . . truly not all that common . . . might i suggest mr wagner that you hazard a guess as to the valley . . .you are almost there CLUE CLUE CLUE !!!!!!


best regards




ANOTHER CLUE . . . . . THE COLORS ARE TYPICAL OF SUZANI FROM THAT VALLEY.


richard farber


Posted by Chuck Wagner on 10-07-2004 11:15 PM:

Educated Guess Department

Hi Richard,

The only valley name I've heard associated with Uzbek work is Ferghana, so that's my wild guess. I have to confess that I'm totally unaware of any association between Ferghana and color schemes of any sort. But, it's a valley and that counts for something.

Saying that it's associated with the Amu Darya valley is way too general, but that would be a second choice, I suppose.

Nice piece; feel free to send it to me at your earliest convenience...

Regards,
Chuck Wagner

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Posted by Richard Farber on 10-08-2004 02:33 AM:

WE HAVE A WINNER

dear all


turkish kettle drums
brass cornets
jar drums
zornas
and two cane clarinets in a wild frenzy because

WE HAVE A WINNER

we have mr chuck wagner who has correctly attributed this suzani to the ferghana valley


suzani

ferghana valley

towards the end of the 19th cent. [or before world war one in any case]
**if you have a different opinion as to the age please reply**

companion pieces can be found in suzani books perhaps those of you out there with scanners might send in an image or two.


congradulations to mr wagner . . . and your price will be the right to purchase at full price any number of turkotek tee shirts when and if ever they are made.


and for those out there refusing to make silly guesses there are very few left of the original 10 to solve . . .but there is a still a chance at glory with those that remain.