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Chuck, I tried "edit" to add the picture again, no luck. Here it is again, hopefully:
This format is definitely Kurdish. I have seen a few like this, said to be bags - quite large, though.
Dinie, what is your address? I'm coming over to steal that Qashqa'i chanteh.
I thought I replied to Dinie's post, but see nothing, so I will try again! Dinie, your Qashqai chanteh looks like a Luri in appearance - except for the "Qashqa'i Frieze" end panels in complementary weft - and the silk wefts. Perhaps it was made by a Luri woman in a Qashqa'i confederation group. Luri families were part of both the Qashqa'i and Khamseh confederations.
Patrick Weiler
All of a sudden I'm seeing latch-hook-bird-head-diamonds everywhere, but I think this Shekarlu on my wall wins the prize in my collection for the most examples.
Some very interesting examples, to be sure. And I have found more from eastern Anatolia and NW Persia - Tabriz, etc.
And now, an Afshar:
And a Qashqai:
And a Khamseh:
I originally landed at Afshar because of the palette, which to me is very far from typical Kurdish work.
And I have to say that, after doing the book search, I am now settling on Khamseh, because of the vertical bars connecting the red diamonds containing the smaller florettes, which is a extremely common feature of Khamseh work.
Paul,
You may know that even Opie has mentioned that the Shekarlu design may have Khamseh roots, though nearly all rug folks simply call them all Qashqa'i. Looking at features like the darker warps on most of these, and the style of motifs in the field, lend credence to that idea. You may have escalated the competition with the number of latchhook motifs!
Joel, some of those yastiks are really great! That last Mujur piece shows conclusively that the obvious origin of the design was Luri and the hundreds of years old Anatolian versions are simple copies, right?
Here is another Luri version. I did not include it in my original post because it has a "swallowtail diamond" design on the other side, which was facing up when I was rifling through my bagface stash.
What are the Luri elements you see in my chanteh? The irregular drawing and colour distribution?
As to the stealing of the chanteh, it suffers badly from claustrophobia. Even thinking of your bunker makes it blanch, almost fade, so I will have to keep my address hidden from you. Soooo sorry.
I am still finding out the the finer points of the new software, but I do like the possibility to directly upload pictures from the computer. A long standing wish fulfilled!
Dinie
Hi Dinie
The old software had that capability, too, but it was disabled. My concern was that it carried too much risk of mischief. Malware can hide in a JPG, not to mention offensive photos. Filiberto, Joel and Chuck are willing to take on those risks. I wasn't.
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