Small Saddlebag Question

Collapse

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Small Saddlebag Question

    Hello, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the origins of the bag seen in the photos? Is it Turkmen? All I can find out is that it looks to have "ayna gocak" gol pattern. If it is Turkmen, what tribe do you think? Thank you in advance for your help!

    Ryan Schweitzer
    Attached Files

  • #2
    These small saddlebags are somewhat hard to find as they were made for children. I believe this is a Tekke tribe (which is Turkmen) piece and very unusual to find it complete as a lot of these were butchered so two pieces could be sold vs just one. Here is a picture of one I saw in a private collection last Summer in Turkey.

    You have a great piece that appears to be older and complete.

    Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_7385.jpg
Views:	158
Size:	237.2 KB
ID:	2065
    Joe Lawrence

    Comment


    • #3
      Thank you, Mr. Lawrence! I appreciate your insight and help!

      Comment


      • #4
        Hi again, Ryan,

        I agree with Joe that it's most likely to be a Tekke piece. I base this on the palette, and an image on a computer monitor can be pretty misleading. If you can get a count of the knot density, I'd be more confident of that attribution if it's more than 150/square inch. My guess is that it dates to ca. 1900.

        Turkmen saddlebags aren't seen very often (nor are Turkmen prayer rugs). I've long wondered why. Never heard that they were made for children, but if that's true it would explain their scarcity.

        Best

        Steve Price

        Comment


        • #5
          Hi Ryan,

          Uwe Jourdan's book on Turkoman weavings has the following example in his section on Tekke work. For all the reasons stated above by the others, and this, I concur with the suggestion that it's early 20th century Tekke work. Additionally, the pointed 5-sided minor border is typical of work from northeast Iran and western Turkmenistan and Afghanistan.

          Regards
          Chuck

          Comment


          • #6
            Thank you everyone! I really appreciate your insight. It is all quite helpful!

            Comment


            • #7

              Can you post clear pictures of your small khorjin laying flat showing both the front and back without using a flash?

              There is extremely limited information on the small khorjins and at one time long ago I thought they were made for tourists. I have found out first hand from esteemed dealers that they were made for children. Since then, I have seen it mentioned in selected books too.

              From the few I have seen in person and elsewhere, most will attribute the piece from 1900. I believe this is a safe time period to start at. Again, there is not a lot of info in these and for Turkmen examples, I have only seen them from the Tekke tribe.

              The general size for these are approximately 11x23 inches or
              27x58 cm. This is a general size and yours could be slightly larger or smaller.
              Joe Lawrence

              Comment


              • #8
                Here are some more photos...
                Attached Files

                Comment


                • #9
                  Thank you for sharing those pics Ryan. It’s a magnificent piece.
                  Joe Lawrence

                  Comment

                  Previously entered content was automatically saved. Restore or Discard.
                  Auto-Saved
                  x
                  Insert: Thumbnail Small Medium Large Fullsize Remove  
                  x
                  or Allowed Filetypes: jpg, jpeg, png, gif
                  x

                  Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image below.

                  Registration Image Refresh Image
                  Working...
                  X