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    Dear all,

    A couple of weeks ago (and after a long hiatus), I came across a few interesting rugs at a local monthly auction. Turned out they all came from the estate of a deceased person, who must have been something of a collector. However, no real attribution to the rugs was provided on the auction website. I secured four of the five rugs I was interested in and would like to share them on Turkotek. Two of the rugs were antique Turkmen chuvals and the other two certainly looked like Baluch work to me. I'd like to begin with the two Baluch and get feedback on my dating, etc.

    The first one looks like a pretty typical "5th quarter 19th century" Baluch rug to me:

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    The size of the rug is 95 x 175 cm, even wear with a couple of worn spots. Five colors: white, dark blue, dark brown, medium brown, and pinkish red. The dark brown is noticeably corroded. I suspect the rug has experienced some kind of chemical treatment as the pronounced color difference between the front and the back does not look like natural fading.

    I could not find really close relatives of the design from my library, but some of the mid-19th century Baluch in Siawosch Azadi's Carpets in the Baluch Tradition (pl. 4 / Madad Khani?, Khorassan, Kainat and pl. 9 / Khorassan, Kainat) and especially the 19th century rug in Franz Bausback's Alte Knüpfarbeiten der Belutchen (p. 45) share design elements of the main field.
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    And here's the other, maybe a more exciting one! I was genuinely baffled by this rug as it looks like a reasonably old Baluch with intact kilims, but with a pretty wild design that was wholly unfamiliar to me:







    The size of this mystery rug is 110 x 155 cm without kilims (length 195 cm with them), even wear except for a worn patch in the middle. Plenty of abrash, but here's how I would attempt to list the colors: white, medium brown, dark brown, black-brown, red in two distinct shades, orange, and blue (cf. the kilim stripes). I suspect that would be quite a palette for an antique Baluch rug? None of the colors looks like an obvious synthetic, but I'm far from sure about that. The black-brown and dark brown are very heavily corroded with the pile practically gone.

    I would not call the design beautiful, but it certainly looks "tribal"! The only examples I could find from the literature that even remotely resemble the design of this rug are James Opie's Tribal Rugs pl. 13.15 (p. 237) and the Eilands' Oriental Rugs pl. 97 (p. 131).

    Here's one more photo of the two rugs on top of my mid-20th century Afghan:



    Any ideas about the age and tribal origins of the two rugs will be much appreciated!

    Best,

    Mikko
    Mikko Saikku
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    Last edited by Mikko Saikku; 10-18-2023, 12:05 AM.

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    No pictures yet
    Joe Lawrence

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    • #3
      Really! They look fine on my computer, but here's another attempt at uploading--1st rug:

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        And the 2nd:

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        • #5
          Hi Mikko,

          I think you have dated the first one precisely, "5th-quarter" 19th-c.--my non-expert guess is that this one is Yacub Khani, but I am prepared to be corrected. The second one is a generation older, I would think 1870-80, and I think I saw two shades of blue in that, a deep indigo, and a lovely lighter shade. I am pretty confident that all the colors in both of these rugs are legit vegetal dyes. I guess I would be more inclined than you to think of that second one as a beautiful design, and in general I'd say that one is a fine piece with "good age," as they say. You might go hunting in the T'tek archives for a Baluchi that is similar. I recall that Rich Larkin, a rug enthusiast of legend, had one with a similar design, and David Hunt once started a really interesting thread here about a "madrassa" carpet of considerable age that he had which had a similar border, and some similar design features, which featured pieces that resemble your example, here's a link-- http://www.turkotek.com/misc_00104/balouch_big.htm

          Congratulations!



          Paul

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          • #6
            Hi Paul,

            Cordial thanks for your input! While I believe I have acquired certain rug knowledge over the years from rug literature and from Turkotek, it is still rather hard for me to make "a positive identification" based on my very limited on-hand experience with 19th century rugs. So it's invaluable to have a second opinion from someone far more knowledgeable. All the better if it's the same as mine!

            Judging from my internet search, Yakub Khani does seem like a reasonable attribution for the first rug. As for the second rug, I did not want to imply I find it ugly (I don't think I've ever seen a truly ugly 19th century rug!), just that the design is not, to my taste, the most attractive to be found in antique Baluch rugs. And this rug does possess that elusive "character." The thread about the "Madrassa rug" was most educational and the border similarities quite striking--thanks again!

            Best,

            Mikko

            P.S. Wish I could offer some words of wisdom about the big Baluch bag you posted, but sadly unable to do so...

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            • #7
              Hello Mikko, hi all,

              I do agree with Paul's assessment. The first one is a run of the mill early 20th rug. The second is truely collectible, imho, a much better piece. I seem to see even more colour variation in the second rug than you, Mikko, list. It is much rarer, older and has a more tribal feel than the first. I would attribute it to a Timuri weaver of Khorasan, e.g. because of the border design and colours, and it might have been intended as a smaller version of the luxurious main carpets that the more affluent would roll out for a special occasion.

              Kind regards

              Frank

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              • #8
                Hello Frank,

                Thank you very much for your identification. An assessment from a renowned Baluchiphile is greatly appreciated! Glad to hear I was right about the first rug. Re the second one: I thought it must be considerably older than the first--great it turned out that way.

                Thanks again,

                Mikko

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