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  • Baluch Ali Mirzai?

    Dear all,

    Two years ago I posted a couple of Baluch rugs. The resulting discussion was very lively and educating (thanks again!) and really piqued my interest in Baluch rugs: I acquired some literature on the subject and have kept my eyes open for older examples at auctions and flea markets ever since.

    Most of the numerous Baluch I've come across over these two years have clearly been quite recent production, but I've managed to purchase two rugs that seem definitely a bit older and also more classic in their design. Both rugs were bought from local auctions and come from private homes where they had been for several decades. Here's the first one:


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    The two pictures above come from the auction catalog, and the red in them looks way too bright at least on my computer. So here's a photo of the rug taken on top of my mid-20th century Afghan (now the lighter blue is too bright!):


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    The size is 190 x 90 cm. Plenty of mostly even wear (one kilim completely worn out, some left of the other). Five colors: medium red, white, blue (in two shades, the other almost black), reddish brown, and dark brown (noticeably corroded).

    When I saw the rug for the first time, I was certain I had seen something very much like it before. So I went back to my Baluch books and found this rug from Siawosch Azadi's Teppiche in der Belutsch-Tradition/Carpets in the Baluch Tradition (Munich: Klinkhardt & Biermann, 1986), pp. 186-187 (sorry about the low-quality cellphone photo):


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    Azadi identifies this rug as "Kurd Baluch?, Ali Mirzai, Khorasan, Torbat-e Haidari, Northeast Persia, 176 x 102 cm, ca. 1880." As you can see, the resemblance to my rug is almost uncanny, down to the abrash with the blue color.

    So what do you make of Azadi's rug (and its identification) vis-a-vis my rug? (Early?) 20th century reproduction of a traditional pattern or what?

    All feedback is most welcome!

    Best,

    Mikko

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    I think your rug is late 19th-c., and I'm not sure yours is Kurdish, since it looks like it has asymmetrical knots. Nice piece.

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    • #3
      Thanks, Paul--that was the rough dating I was secretly hoping for...

      Incidentally, Azadi reports that the "Kurd Baluch?" piece above has asymmetrical knotting.

      Best,

      Mikko

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      • #4
        Hi Mikko

        I don't know why Azadi called it Kurd-Baluch plus question marks, as imho clearly it is not. I too would place to the Torbat region of Khorasan, and date it to late 19th/ ca. 1900.
        These smalish rugs are quite common, of good wool and dyes, and I like your example I have one too, but the only photo I have of it right now has a well-known ruggie standing in front of it, so I can't post it now.

        Kind regards

        Frank Martin Diehr

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          Good to hear from you!

          Your's is a very good example of the type, which is fairly numerous. I have one, too, but I blocked out the well-known ruggie standing in front of it when I took that picture in 2003 (see attachment).
          I don't know why Azadi called it Kurd-Baluch?, at least with a question mark, because imho it clearly is not.
          Khorasan, Turbat region is o.k., and I would date it to late 19th/ ca. 1900. They all have good wool and dyes, and are fairly small rugs probably made for the mashad market. I really like the type.

          Kind regards

          Frank
          Frank Martin Diehr
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          Last edited by Frank Martin Diehr; 02-11-2023, 08:57 AM.

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          • #6
            Thank you for your comments, Frank--they are truly appreciated.

            What's the general opinion on that "Ali Mirzai" moniker used on this type of Baluch rugs--(non-Kurdish) tribe or clan?

            Best,

            Mikko

            P.S. Wish I could visit Corfu this year and see Frank's Baluch bagfaces in person at that beautiful little museum!
            Mikko Saikku
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            Last edited by Mikko Saikku; 02-12-2023, 09:32 AM.

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