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Old September 8th, 2019, 01:10 AM   #2
Chuck Wagner
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 82

Hi Red,

In the 20th century Afghan context, this would be referred to as a Baba Siddiq piece.

They are sourced from the area north of Kunduz, between Qala-i-Zal and Imam Saheb, including a village named Baba Siddiq.

Parsons discusses these in his book The Carpets of Afghanistan.

The two major borders are very typical of this production.

The one with the floral element is sometimes called Beshiri, referring somewhat vaguely to an older attribution of Ersari origin, but nowadays thought of as Middle Amu Darya provenance.

This, however, is an Afghan piece.

Combining the borders with modified Tekke field ornaments is uncommon, but not unknown, and is not a traditional Turkmen habit.

The design and dyes place in the mid-20th century, and made for the commercial market.

Here is a Baba Siddiq that we own, also mid 20th century but with the traditional field motifs and colors used by weavers from Imam Saheb:

Chuck Wagner

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