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Chuck Wagner · September 17th, 2017, 06:18 PM

Hi Dave,

I am not personally aware of any research that - via genetics - links the Tekke and the Kizil Ayak.

One could easily imagine a situation where tribes displaced or relocated by Khans or Soviets exist in close proximity, or are co-located, and as the geezers die off, the intermarriage process could result in localized connection.

But historically, not a link I am familiar with. Elena Tsareva was kind enough to take a look at some images and agreed with a Tekke attribution. But, to be fair, she didn't handle the piece, and, the Kizil Ayak question was not raised in the context of this piece.

Jim Allen has noted the diamond fill motifs on other older Tekke torbas, and it's his sense that they represent arrows (via personal communication).

Regards
Chuck

September 17th, 2017, 06:18 PM	#8
Chuck Wagner Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 163	Hi Dave, I am not personally aware of any research that - via genetics - links the Tekke and the Kizil Ayak. One could easily imagine a situation where tribes displaced or relocated by Khans or Soviets exist in close proximity, or are co-located, and as the geezers die off, the intermarriage process could result in localized connection. But historically, not a link I am familiar with. Elena Tsareva was kind enough to take a look at some images and agreed with a Tekke attribution. But, to be fair, she didn't handle the piece, and, the Kizil Ayak question was not raised in the context of this piece. Jim Allen has noted the diamond fill motifs on other older Tekke torbas, and it's his sense that they represent arrows (via personal communication). Regards Chuck