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Dear folks -

Botehs are a frequent design device in oriental rugs and textiles. It might be interesting to design a salon essay that surveyed the varieties of botehs in published pieces.

Similarly "Memling guls" are a widely used device. This too might serve as a focus of an interesting salon essay.

And if so inclined one might propose a basis for evaluating the drawing of these two devices.

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R. John Howe

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The boteh/paisley must be the most reproduced, used symbol in the world today. Wallpaper, bandanas, neckties, dresses, scarfs, textiles, & of course carpets display it in many styles. Where did it come from Central Asia, Persia Kashmir? .... what was the model for the original a pine cone, flower or possibly a mango?


Food for thought and defintely lots of room to expand ......

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Hi Derek

The topic isn't exhausted, of course, but we do have a modest discussion of it in our archive. Here is a link to it http://www.turkotek.com/misc_00072/boteh.htm

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Steve Price

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Good suggestion, John. I notice in, September, 2004, Richard Tomlinson suggested something of the same, proposing that as many variant versions as possible be brought forward. I have a sense that many "boteh" designs came from different sources over time, and converged or became homogenized as boteh, rather than many boteh stemming (floral pun intended) from the same original model.

Then, of course, Patrick Weiler can fill in with the anthropological information about the tribe with the same name.

Are there so many versions of the Memlilng gul? Perhaps we'll see.

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